1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:14,190 [Music] 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:17,189 I guess with respect to what our 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:19,210 family's involvement in tourism what 4 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:20,770 we've known for in this particular 5 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:25,810 phenomenon it seems to be being branded 6 00:00:30,810 --> 00:00:28,000 as more of a generational case the very 7 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:30,820 first authentic generational case that 8 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:34,510 has involved my grandmother my father my 9 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:36,899 brother my mother myself and my brother 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:39,820 and grandmother my father not so much 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:41,290 but he was still around at the time 12 00:00:46,319 --> 00:00:43,930 so what's considered a generational 13 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:46,329 encounter case and it was classified as 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:53,140 a c4 way back when and and and it has a 15 00:00:59,970 --> 00:00:54,930 lot of roots and a lot of history to it 16 00:01:02,190 --> 00:00:59,980 okay how this all started we owned a an 17 00:01:05,369 --> 00:01:02,200 80 acre horse farm in Sheffield 18 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:05,379 Massachusetts and it was a border town 19 00:01:10,649 --> 00:01:07,960 called Great Barrington which was really 20 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:10,659 kind of an upscale town with a large 21 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:13,619 castle in it in it in some respects that 22 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:15,520 it was liked a little bit of the 23 00:01:20,340 --> 00:01:18,510 Hamptons of Massachusetts and and 24 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:20,350 Sheffield on the other hand where we 25 00:01:26,219 --> 00:01:23,140 lived was a very rural area but only 26 00:01:29,370 --> 00:01:26,229 moments were minutes outside Great 27 00:01:30,649 --> 00:01:29,380 Barrington well when we bought this 28 00:01:35,789 --> 00:01:30,659 property 29 00:01:38,789 --> 00:01:35,799 it came with a nice house and stable and 30 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,799 and we built another stable and in a 31 00:01:43,890 --> 00:01:40,720 buying more property across the road so 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:43,900 we had a lot of acreage on one of the 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:48,810 higher points for 1,700 miles a road 34 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:53,490 Sheffield is almost 3,000 feet high and 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:01:56,020 around it you had a lot of military 36 00:02:02,789 --> 00:01:59,530 manufacturing companies like Pratt & 37 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:02,799 Whitney and command aerospace and GE and 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:09,670 and and electric boat and and so there 39 00:02:14,910 --> 00:02:12,090 was a lot of military manufacturing 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:14,920 companies within 40 miles away from us 41 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:17,290 and Sheffield again was only a hundred 42 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,750 miles or so outside New York City but it 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:21,760 was just a sororal little town and our 44 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:23,770 farm was on the top of this hill and it 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:25,510 was said that there were Minutemen 46 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:27,250 missile sites and 47 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:31,570 and you know a lot of a lot of 48 00:02:40,260 --> 00:02:34,950 government in and out of that area now 49 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:40,270 in 1966 at our first encounter that we 50 00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:44,440 ever had wasn't far from my mother's 51 00:02:48,570 --> 00:02:45,790 restaurant we owned a restaurant in town 52 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:48,580 called the village green and my brother 53 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:51,760 and I remember being in a room and my 54 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:53,110 brother had the top bunk 55 00:02:57,900 --> 00:02:54,910 we shared bunk beds and I at the bottom 56 00:03:01,729 --> 00:02:57,910 obviously and the bottom of her bed kind 57 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:01,739 of faced out towards a window and that 58 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:04,420 particular night was the first time we 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:06,489 ever experienced anything so for us it 60 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:08,890 was very traumatic as children because 61 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:11,730 we our bodies weren't accustomed to 62 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:14,680 understanding what it was feeling you 63 00:03:19,590 --> 00:03:16,780 know we had no idea that we were going 64 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:19,600 to be involved in something as difficult 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:23,920 as it was and so that particular night 66 00:03:30,780 --> 00:03:27,010 we had actually seen what looked like an 67 00:03:32,940 --> 00:03:30,790 orb in the room and it would have been 68 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:32,950 the right corner of the room and it 69 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:34,930 would have kind of faded in and gone out 70 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:37,630 and it moved along the back wall until 71 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:40,690 it came to the the L in the room are 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:42,430 coming back the other way and once it 73 00:03:48,870 --> 00:03:45,850 hit that corner then it it moved all the 74 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:48,880 way across opposite our bunk beds and at 75 00:03:55,140 --> 00:03:51,370 that point we we get kind of stopped 76 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:55,150 next to door and we kept looking at the 77 00:03:59,460 --> 00:03:57,519 door thinking something in the room was 78 00:04:01,259 --> 00:03:59,470 watching us you know was it the or was 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:01,269 there was and we didn't know what an orb 80 00:04:05,130 --> 00:04:03,010 was back then but is it something in the 81 00:04:07,949 --> 00:04:05,140 room you know we felt like we were being 82 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:07,959 watched it was very creepy and then this 83 00:04:11,610 --> 00:04:10,180 change in pressure came like we were 84 00:04:13,949 --> 00:04:11,620 lighter like I said if you're in the 85 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:13,959 middle of a hurricane if that makes 86 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:18,040 sense and or you're lighter and then to 87 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:21,760 give you a better perspective if you go 88 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:24,040 out and at night it was a full moon you 89 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:25,540 know you can kind of stay out later 90 00:04:29,550 --> 00:04:28,000 there's more of an energy and if you 91 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:29,560 were to take three moons and you had 92 00:04:36,690 --> 00:04:32,460 that liveliness that lighter feeling and 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:36,700 yet this tingling on their body that's 94 00:04:41,050 --> 00:04:38,289 what it was what it was like for us on 95 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:41,060 1966 and then all of a sudden it 96 00:04:47,260 --> 00:04:44,240 just like bang it was we were no longer 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:47,270 in the room but in a hallway and we were 98 00:04:52,270 --> 00:04:49,010 kind of sandwiched between what looked 99 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:52,280 like two entities like ghosts almost one 100 00:04:56,770 --> 00:04:54,470 was in front of me one was behind my 101 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,780 brother and we were kind of sandwiched 102 00:05:04,260 --> 00:04:58,880 between these entities and were very 103 00:05:06,340 --> 00:05:04,270 relaxed very calm going with the flow 104 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:06,350 understanding enough that when I walked 105 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:08,840 by the staircase I actually wondered why 106 00:05:13,420 --> 00:05:11,090 we were not going down two stairs I kept 107 00:05:17,710 --> 00:05:13,430 wondering why we kept going straight so 108 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:17,720 I had that that conscious state of mind 109 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:19,880 to question that but I didn't do 110 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:25,430 anything about it and so moments later 111 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:29,389 it was like the floor changed the ground 112 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:31,400 changed beneath our feet and bang were 113 00:05:36,100 --> 00:05:34,550 at the corner of our property and I know 114 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:36,110 how it sounds but that's what happened 115 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:40,310 and and we broke through walked through 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:42,530 or I believe we walked through a tree 117 00:05:45,730 --> 00:05:45,050 line and there was a large rock on the 118 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:45,740 left-hand side 119 00:05:50,140 --> 00:05:47,900 and we went a little bit further and 120 00:05:55,840 --> 00:05:50,150 there was a wishbone type of tree to the 121 00:05:57,100 --> 00:05:55,850 right and we had stopped and and looked 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:05:57,110 at this thing and it looked like a big 123 00:06:02,050 --> 00:05:59,450 pile of dirt and then we kind of 124 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:02,060 referenced it as a turtle shell because 125 00:06:07,390 --> 00:06:04,640 even that seemed to look alive 126 00:06:09,340 --> 00:06:07,400 like there was markings in it like and 127 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:09,350 when you reference things as a child you 128 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:12,710 kind of get a feel for you know what you 129 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:14,840 expect from it I guess you know so the 130 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:16,910 reason I referenced it as a turtle shell 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:18,889 was because it really looked like it 132 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:20,090 could have been moving like a turtle 133 00:06:23,500 --> 00:06:22,190 shells Markson and the shell and this 134 00:06:27,070 --> 00:06:23,510 had marks on the top of the shell as 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:27,080 well that that night we my brother and I 136 00:06:32,710 --> 00:06:30,490 we got involved in something that 137 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:32,720 somehow we got inside of this thing I'm 138 00:06:36,790 --> 00:06:34,310 not really sure how that happened and I 139 00:06:39,580 --> 00:06:36,800 remember the hallways I remember you 140 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:39,590 know walking around him and I remember 141 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:42,260 going to the up o hall that's shaped 142 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:43,970 like a question mark and it stopped at 143 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,289 this darker room and then we were 144 00:06:53,140 --> 00:06:50,720 stopped that the interest in his very 145 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:53,150 dark room and it was like I was handed 146 00:07:00,609 --> 00:06:54,529 off like everything worked 147 00:07:02,109 --> 00:07:00,619 on on zones as if certain areas were 148 00:07:05,019 --> 00:07:02,119 zoned for certain people or certain 149 00:07:07,449 --> 00:07:05,029 groups or certain entities to handle 150 00:07:11,409 --> 00:07:07,459 that particular area whatever I was 151 00:07:16,389 --> 00:07:11,419 moved anywhere I was like handed off and 152 00:07:18,989 --> 00:07:16,399 anytime I was escorted I was let in 153 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:18,999 someone else let go in someone else's 154 00:07:26,289 --> 00:07:22,519 custody if you will how I feel this was 155 00:07:30,069 --> 00:07:26,299 broken up into stages it seemed to be 156 00:07:32,829 --> 00:07:30,079 very something one person's or one 157 00:07:35,649 --> 00:07:32,839 entity's area to to make sure that 158 00:07:37,089 --> 00:07:35,659 certain areas worked and ran properly 159 00:07:39,159 --> 00:07:37,099 and then when I was to be brought some 160 00:07:40,569 --> 00:07:39,169 warehouse they would leave me and the 161 00:07:44,349 --> 00:07:40,579 presence of this person they would go 162 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:44,359 back okay so for this and for what 163 00:07:49,329 --> 00:07:46,969 little we really saw except this willow 164 00:07:51,969 --> 00:07:49,339 tree image which was shown to me which 165 00:07:54,449 --> 00:07:51,979 had like a he went from 9 o'clock to 3 166 00:07:57,879 --> 00:07:54,459 o'clock this thing was just a massive 167 00:08:01,239 --> 00:07:57,889 display just like an LCD TV would be or 168 00:08:03,789 --> 00:08:01,249 a plasma television set and it went from 169 00:08:06,369 --> 00:08:03,799 seriously it must have gone 15 feet 170 00:08:10,449 --> 00:08:06,379 around and it was huge in about 11 10 171 00:08:12,129 --> 00:08:10,459 maybe 10 to 12 feet high and so I'm 172 00:08:13,929 --> 00:08:12,139 looking at this thing we had a black and 173 00:08:15,789 --> 00:08:13,939 white television at the time and this 174 00:08:18,219 --> 00:08:15,799 willow trees like green and gold and 175 00:08:20,229 --> 00:08:18,229 winds coming through and it's a whipping 176 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:20,239 around and it's got this beautiful body 177 00:08:26,259 --> 00:08:23,599 of water off to the right of it and it 178 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:26,269 took my mind off my brother which I 179 00:08:31,569 --> 00:08:27,889 don't know if that was the reason for it 180 00:08:37,629 --> 00:08:31,579 or not but he was no longer there and so 181 00:08:40,540 --> 00:08:37,639 that really was it for 1966 it seemed to 182 00:08:42,969 --> 00:08:40,550 be to me to be more of a indoctrination 183 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:42,979 of some sort might just get us there I 184 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:45,529 don't remember any testing being done I 185 00:08:50,619 --> 00:08:47,000 don't remember anything like that and 186 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:50,629 then a year later about or just about a 187 00:08:57,519 --> 00:08:53,839 year exactly it was September again we 188 00:08:59,980 --> 00:08:57,529 were in a room again and we were talking 189 00:09:01,660 --> 00:08:59,990 we were in conversation and my mother 190 00:09:04,689 --> 00:09:01,670 came in to shut the window because she 191 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:04,699 said well and I think it's gonna you 192 00:09:08,350 --> 00:09:06,889 know we're gonna get a bad storm you 193 00:09:09,579 --> 00:09:08,360 know so she wanted to shut the windows 194 00:09:11,079 --> 00:09:09,589 what she said I see lightning but I 195 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:11,089 don't hear any thunder so I think it 196 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:13,010 will pass she came in and shut the 197 00:09:24,569 --> 00:09:18,320 window anyway and so again my brother 198 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:24,579 and I were experiencing this this vibe 199 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:29,230 this mild electrical type of current 200 00:09:36,579 --> 00:09:31,910 magnetic ILF is what I believe it was 201 00:09:39,610 --> 00:09:36,589 and we start to feel your mind starts to 202 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:39,620 feel differently you start to become 203 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:41,540 Placid and then then all of a sudden 204 00:09:48,850 --> 00:09:45,620 it's something's funny and then your 205 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:48,860 mind starts playing emotional unbalanced 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:53,269 tricks on you and it was this very 207 00:10:00,970 --> 00:09:57,010 strange and and then of course that that 208 00:10:07,230 --> 00:10:00,980 lighter feeling that you find with the 209 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:07,240 dead calm and then that increased 210 00:10:11,769 --> 00:10:09,230 feeling that you'd get from like a full 211 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:11,779 moon if that makes sense 212 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:16,130 so you have this you know multitude of 213 00:10:23,439 --> 00:10:20,180 things happening at once and and it was 214 00:10:26,769 --> 00:10:23,449 very similar and reminded us very much 215 00:10:30,810 --> 00:10:26,779 of what happened the year before so I 216 00:10:38,410 --> 00:10:36,210 and then my my brother started sitting 217 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:38,420 getting quiet and he went and told me 218 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:40,040 later he sat like indian-style in the 219 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:41,690 bed because he didn't want to be down he 220 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:43,550 wanted to be able to see then by setting 221 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:45,110 you need a style up top you could see 222 00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:48,140 out that window and again I want I 223 00:10:51,130 --> 00:10:49,550 looked off to the side of the bunk bed 224 00:10:53,650 --> 00:10:51,140 now I had a ladder that came down so I 225 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:53,660 kind of went off the side it kind of 226 00:10:57,730 --> 00:10:55,699 looked between or around the ladder 227 00:10:59,920 --> 00:10:57,740 every now and then to see what I could 228 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:59,930 what was out that window because that 229 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:02,000 seemed to be the area that orb the year 230 00:11:07,689 --> 00:11:04,399 before and then bang we saw this blue 231 00:11:10,269 --> 00:11:07,699 light like a hula hoop and so I'm 232 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:10,279 staring at this little blue hula hoop 233 00:11:15,670 --> 00:11:12,320 with a white around it like a white and 234 00:11:17,889 --> 00:11:15,680 blue and there was nothing behind our 235 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:17,899 our home at that point there were no 236 00:11:22,510 --> 00:11:20,720 homes there were no cars it was just 237 00:11:25,510 --> 00:11:22,520 some woods and a big 238 00:11:27,370 --> 00:11:25,520 an alfalfa field and I was staring at 239 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:27,380 this thing and I'm trying to see what it 240 00:11:31,930 --> 00:11:27,560 is 241 00:11:34,449 --> 00:11:31,940 then all of a sudden like fired into the 242 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:34,459 room my brother says it just lit up the 243 00:11:41,139 --> 00:11:36,740 whole room I felt like I got hit with a 244 00:11:43,630 --> 00:11:41,149 like a blast of white whitewash from an 245 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:43,640 ocean wave that just turned on me 246 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:49,490 and and it hit my chest and I went from 247 00:11:54,970 --> 00:11:52,490 laying down to standing up to feeling 248 00:11:56,829 --> 00:11:54,980 inverted and flipping inverting a 100 249 00:11:58,300 --> 00:11:56,839 degree hundred you know bang my head's 250 00:12:02,560 --> 00:11:58,310 on the floor you know my feet are up in 251 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:02,570 the air and then at the same time it 252 00:12:08,110 --> 00:12:04,760 felt like I got wrapped in white packet 253 00:12:10,260 --> 00:12:08,120 like if you had those big white air 254 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:10,270 packets that you box things into mail 255 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:13,880 even they're about this big or so and if 256 00:12:19,180 --> 00:12:16,399 they were white so I felt like I was 257 00:12:22,300 --> 00:12:19,190 completely encompassed surrounded 258 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:22,310 tightly around these white packets so I 259 00:12:34,590 --> 00:12:27,740 got hit inverted rapped and then I was 260 00:12:41,019 --> 00:12:37,870 you know was weird then so my brother 261 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:41,029 he's yelling you know Tom you know Tom's 262 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:43,820 gone he runs down the stairs goes to 263 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:46,910 wake my mother up and my grandmother nor 264 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:49,010 my mother would respond so he got 265 00:12:53,310 --> 00:12:51,110 between the wall in the bed and started 266 00:12:55,420 --> 00:12:53,320 kicking my mother to wake her up and 267 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:55,430 I'll tell you something else he saw 268 00:12:59,889 --> 00:12:58,010 something in that room that he does not 269 00:13:01,750 --> 00:12:59,899 we never mentioned we're kind of saving 270 00:13:05,019 --> 00:13:01,760 it for the book but he did see something 271 00:13:07,540 --> 00:13:05,029 in that room as well and it was until 272 00:13:11,889 --> 00:13:07,550 that what he saw left that they came to 273 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:11,899 and then you know alien mysteries you 274 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:13,700 know shows my brother looking over the 275 00:13:16,810 --> 00:13:15,770 railing it was really my mother that was 276 00:13:19,150 --> 00:13:16,820 looking over the railing 277 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:19,160 my brother was running back to my room 278 00:13:23,290 --> 00:13:20,750 to show my mother I wasn't there and 279 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:23,300 then it sounded like simultaneously all 280 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:25,490 the doors and a house slammed they 281 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:27,440 really didn't but that's what it sounded 282 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:29,990 like and my mother doesn't know if it 283 00:13:35,630 --> 00:13:33,110 was seconds minutes and next thing she 284 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:35,640 knows Matthews gone 285 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:38,010 now Matthew when he ran down he had a 286 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:39,690 tugboat like a little yellow and blue 287 00:13:44,509 --> 00:13:42,570 tugboat his hands and what's interesting 288 00:13:47,690 --> 00:13:44,519 about that too was I was at the same 289 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:47,700 craft now then I was a year earlier and 290 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:49,860 I was at this entrance area where that 291 00:13:54,110 --> 00:13:51,630 where that question mark would wrap 292 00:13:56,780 --> 00:13:54,120 around and stop before that darker room 293 00:13:58,880 --> 00:13:56,790 I was standing right there with a entity 294 00:14:00,680 --> 00:13:58,890 off to my left which looked very human 295 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:00,690 by the way it's not a typical gray or 296 00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:04,170 what people described and I'm just 297 00:14:09,139 --> 00:14:06,029 standing there wondering if I'm gonna 298 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:09,149 like go into this darker room and but 299 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:11,100 I'm looking at these tables like a table 300 00:14:15,259 --> 00:14:13,500 here like an L type table then was one 301 00:14:17,660 --> 00:14:15,269 over here almost looked to me to match 302 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:17,670 me the same thing and they had like 303 00:14:23,930 --> 00:14:20,760 bronze tops with what looked like almost 304 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:23,940 braille on top of it then it looked like 305 00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:28,110 a smaller bald you know you know 306 00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:30,630 oriental maybe at one and one over here 307 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:34,079 and and this was the backdrop of that 308 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:36,060 was where that big screen was but there 309 00:14:42,319 --> 00:14:37,860 was no screen up now it was just black 310 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:42,329 and I was not cooperating apparently all 311 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:43,680 right that's the way I feel like because 312 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:48,480 I I remember being more able to think 313 00:14:55,639 --> 00:14:54,000 for myself and I mean there was a look I 314 00:14:59,930 --> 00:14:55,649 mean he was looking at me I was looking 315 00:15:03,800 --> 00:14:59,940 at it and I was like where's my brother 316 00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:03,810 I guess I was crying for him and next 317 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:06,449 thing I know he's there so I don't know 318 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:08,959 if Matthew being there was because I was 319 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:13,370 you know not cooperating or acting out 320 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:15,600 then I wanted him there because it was a 321 00:15:19,009 --> 00:15:17,850 comfort we're having my brother with me 322 00:15:22,030 --> 00:15:19,019 I know that was selfish on my part 323 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:22,040 really but having someone there with you 324 00:15:29,269 --> 00:15:27,480 makes it easier and and so he was 325 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:29,279 brought back to another room where he 326 00:15:33,949 --> 00:15:31,140 had a club foot the brace on his knee 327 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:33,959 and then his ankle and everything and he 328 00:15:41,210 --> 00:15:36,690 remembers that being looked at along 329 00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:41,220 with his tugboat his toy I on the other 330 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,560 hand had gone into this other darker 331 00:15:47,510 --> 00:15:45,839 room and I didn't go very far 332 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:47,520 I want enough to see that there was some 333 00:15:49,310 --> 00:15:49,110 type of a spacesuit there I don't know 334 00:15:57,590 --> 00:15:49,320 what 335 00:15:58,970 --> 00:15:57,600 was for I you know I got a look at 336 00:16:01,880 --> 00:15:58,980 something that was up front it looked 337 00:16:07,580 --> 00:16:01,890 like almost like a box that was towards 338 00:16:10,010 --> 00:16:07,590 the front and and there was more 339 00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:10,020 individuals in there or entities or what 340 00:16:14,570 --> 00:16:12,870 have you or that were in that room that 341 00:16:16,820 --> 00:16:14,580 you really couldn't see earlier and 342 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:16,830 there was another hallway that went back 343 00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:19,050 I'm assuming it probably mirrored the 344 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:22,590 question mark one that I went to who 345 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:26,970 knows what was over there and then you 346 00:16:31,370 --> 00:16:29,130 know we were brought back in this 347 00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:31,380 hallway a little ways and and next thing 348 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:32,940 I know my brother and I are in the 349 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:37,230 middle of the yard my younger brother 350 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:40,710 was maybe I don't know 15 or 20 feet in 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:41,220 front of me 352 00:16:44,330 --> 00:16:42,810 and I was in here looking at and we're 353 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:44,340 like Placid we're staring at each other 354 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:49,410 and my mother at this point had already 355 00:16:52,910 --> 00:16:50,850 been looking for us on horseback 356 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:52,920 you know she saddled up her horse and 357 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:54,450 she went up to the corner there was a 358 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,730 hay baler that we had on our property 359 00:17:00,920 --> 00:16:58,800 that was a know past zone it was like go 360 00:17:03,170 --> 00:17:00,930 past that you're in trouble because if 361 00:17:05,420 --> 00:17:03,180 we fell off a horse or we ran or did or 362 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:05,430 played and got hurt no one could see it 363 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:06,810 from the house you know it was too far 364 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:09,780 up you know and at this point alfalfa 365 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:11,790 grew pretty high so if we tripped her 366 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:13,890 hit her head no one would ever know 367 00:17:19,670 --> 00:17:15,870 where we were so we couldn't go past a 368 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:19,680 hay baler and then but my mother did she 369 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:21,360 went way up top the Appalachian Trail 370 00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:24,720 looking all around for us and she saw 371 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:27,540 what looked like my brother actually 372 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:29,460 spotted him first in the driveway 373 00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:31,770 and we had floodlights because we had a 374 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:34,350 horse farm so we had floods on the sides 375 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:36,570 of the house I'm telling a telephone 376 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:38,310 pole on our property a flood lights and 377 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:40,710 a phone on it and so all the floods went 378 00:17:44,990 --> 00:17:43,200 on my grandmother 379 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:45,000 I guess maybe she yelled or something I 380 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:45,870 wouldn't have heard her anyway if she 381 00:17:48,590 --> 00:17:47,070 did I don't know how my mom actually 382 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:48,600 really knew but she ran back down and a 383 00:17:53,060 --> 00:17:50,520 horse got off the horse picked up my 384 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:53,070 younger brother scooped me up brought us 385 00:17:59,540 --> 00:17:56,160 into the house gave us orange juice wipe 386 00:18:06,620 --> 00:17:59,550 this down with towels you know put us in 387 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:06,630 the living room we put on a fire and and 388 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:07,650 what's the other thing we don't talk 389 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:10,740 about much my brother swears that he was 390 00:18:17,990 --> 00:18:14,910 playing with a you know some scrap metal 391 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:18,000 or something it was having a soda a coke 392 00:18:21,770 --> 00:18:20,460 and some of the things that he was 393 00:18:26,090 --> 00:18:21,780 touching seemed to react 394 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:26,100 oddly to each other which again I would 395 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:27,810 think has something to do with ILF 396 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:29,610 because I think this has a lot to do 397 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:32,610 with the low frequency magnetic energy 398 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:37,460 and then so that was another thing that 399 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:40,710 referenced metal that was acting odd 400 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:44,040 just like in the alien mystery show it 401 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:46,620 talks about the bench shaking the bed 402 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,810 wasn't shaking there were metal hinges 403 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:50,880 that were on these old farm doors that 404 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:53,130 were rattling the bed was around and the 405 00:19:00,590 --> 00:18:56,130 hinges were so again 406 00:19:04,370 --> 00:19:00,600 metal being affected and so that was 407 00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:04,380 really 67 and then it went to years we 408 00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:07,920 didn't have anything happen at all we 409 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:09,480 were talking about this now at the 410 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:11,460 restaurant which was a big mistake 411 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:13,980 because that you know when you have a 412 00:19:23,420 --> 00:19:17,280 single mother who's 29 years old talking 413 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:23,430 about you know people in her house when 414 00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:26,790 UFOs and and that sort of thing became 415 00:19:29,780 --> 00:19:28,470 kind of a joke at the restaurant you 416 00:19:31,460 --> 00:19:29,790 know she was getting a pretty hard time 417 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:31,470 about it there were all these guys I 418 00:19:37,850 --> 00:19:34,560 would block the front entrance so they 419 00:19:39,620 --> 00:19:37,860 couldn't come in in to order you know 420 00:19:41,210 --> 00:19:39,630 the kids used to come over the 421 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:41,220 restaurant was right across the street 422 00:19:45,290 --> 00:19:43,410 from Sheffield Center school so it 423 00:19:48,350 --> 00:19:45,300 became like a hub for kids to get their 424 00:19:51,130 --> 00:19:48,360 quarter shakes and and it really wasn't 425 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:51,140 on a road it was it was inside a green 426 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:53,700 so if you came over for the shakes you 427 00:19:57,620 --> 00:19:55,890 could park your bike set outside have 428 00:20:00,020 --> 00:19:57,630 them walk around the green and ride your 429 00:20:01,670 --> 00:20:00,030 bikes around the safety of the work for 430 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:01,680 the restaurant is you know like off the 431 00:20:08,169 --> 00:20:04,260 road we had this part kind of like it 432 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:08,179 was very much like Newport you know and 433 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:10,260 so it was a great place for everyone to 434 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:11,550 ride your bikes until their parents got 435 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:12,240 off work 436 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:15,510 well that can't came to an end you know 437 00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:17,610 was like let's go guys let's go you know 438 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:20,460 and there was always that my mother 439 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:23,190 would say there was that abrupt table of 440 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,260 four you know so were these four TS to 441 00:20:30,740 --> 00:20:27,840 come in order all this food get 442 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:30,750 obnoxious you know and that made it 443 00:20:35,810 --> 00:20:32,730 rough so my mother stopped working there 444 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:35,820 my grandmother took it over and my 445 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:37,650 grandma there was some Hollis Queens so 446 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:38,940 she was a little pisser 447 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,730 so you know she could kind of deal with 448 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:43,200 it a little bit better and then my 449 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:44,820 mother started dating Howard who was 450 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:47,520 also from Patchogue Long Island so he 451 00:20:51,290 --> 00:20:49,110 was a New Yorker who kind of kind of put 452 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:51,300 people in her place a little bit not to 453 00:20:54,650 --> 00:20:53,490 be rude but enough already you know you 454 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:54,660 want to eat her you don't want to eat 455 00:21:02,660 --> 00:20:58,610 you know he wanted to go we make it so 456 00:21:06,110 --> 00:21:02,670 he made some changes and but it was 457 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:06,120 tough and at this point we were making 458 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:08,670 money at the races my mother raised 459 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:12,090 horses and so September was a big month 460 00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:14,550 for awesome in the town fed off the 461 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:15,360 horse races 462 00:21:19,130 --> 00:21:17,190 Sheffield made a lot of money off the 463 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:19,140 horse racing because a lot of the horse 464 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:21,960 racing came from the breeders there and 465 00:21:28,790 --> 00:21:24,570 so it was important that everyone got 466 00:21:34,220 --> 00:21:28,800 along so in 69 now we're gonna jump up 467 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:34,230 to 69 a lot of that got better because 468 00:21:41,180 --> 00:21:37,350 what happened in 69 was witnessed by so 469 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:41,190 many people and seen by just so many 470 00:21:47,090 --> 00:21:44,450 others and in an in town out of town 471 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:47,100 calls came in to radio stations police 472 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:49,320 officers knew about it it was given a 473 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:53,370 Hynek classification again it happened 474 00:21:59,600 --> 00:21:57,450 on Labor Day and and because of Labor 475 00:22:02,180 --> 00:21:59,610 Day and I was riding in a horse show 476 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:02,190 that day a 4-h club I was running a 477 00:22:06,620 --> 00:22:04,410 horse called big gray by the way is that 478 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:06,630 ironic that's 479 00:22:12,590 --> 00:22:09,360 I've always asked myself well fall 480 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:12,600 Horace's but so it wasn't even her horse 481 00:22:17,299 --> 00:22:15,510 and the saddle came loose and I was 482 00:22:18,650 --> 00:22:17,309 riding with a lot of girls and friends 483 00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:18,660 and you from school so I was kind of 484 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:20,580 embarrassed about it because I got this 485 00:22:25,070 --> 00:22:23,580 lousy ruined and so my mother said well 486 00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:25,080 let's go I'll take you out to eat so she 487 00:22:28,159 --> 00:22:26,640 took me to the meadows restaurant which 488 00:22:31,159 --> 00:22:28,169 is in great barrington Sheffield line 489 00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:31,169 and we stopped got some fireballs had 490 00:22:35,690 --> 00:22:33,299 something to eat and then my mom's like 491 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:35,700 well we need to check on the village on 492 00:22:40,399 --> 00:22:38,370 the green because we need to make the 493 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:40,409 night drop so she wanted to count the 494 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:42,510 receipts double check the night drop put 495 00:22:46,370 --> 00:22:44,460 the money in the bank make sure it was 496 00:22:48,140 --> 00:22:46,380 locked up everything was turned off you 497 00:22:52,159 --> 00:22:48,150 know because normally we locked it up 498 00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:52,169 not to cook and before we left I guess 499 00:22:59,690 --> 00:22:55,080 my grandmother had gone into a store 500 00:23:02,270 --> 00:22:59,700 called silks and talked to the clerk and 501 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:02,280 you know because clues that store was 502 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:04,530 next to the bank and they smoked 503 00:23:09,529 --> 00:23:06,630 Arrington's back then so it's like a 504 00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:09,539 stop for them and we were heading home 505 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:16,140 and we got to the Sheffield bridge which 506 00:23:24,590 --> 00:23:19,289 was a shortcut over to Boardman Street 507 00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:24,600 and my grandmother had turned around to 508 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:26,190 remind me that I shouldn't give my 509 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:28,169 brother a fireball because he could 510 00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:32,159 choke on it and my mother was driving we 511 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:34,380 were probably doing about 35 work only 512 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:36,690 very fast and my grandmother looked out 513 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:38,130 the back window and saw what looked like 514 00:23:44,529 --> 00:23:41,610 a big Bank of lights and the woods so 515 00:23:48,350 --> 00:23:44,539 we're all looking at this thing and 516 00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:48,360 today or if she what she had referenced 517 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,030 at that is that looking at before was 518 00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:53,520 more like a flying strip mall of some 519 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:55,559 kind you know she thought it was that 520 00:24:00,320 --> 00:23:58,530 big but my mother thought well maybe 521 00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,330 because we were moving you know we look 522 00:24:04,220 --> 00:24:02,880 back it looked like it was that big so 523 00:24:07,610 --> 00:24:04,230 we're not really sure how big this thing 524 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:07,620 was but at the same time now the car 525 00:24:12,020 --> 00:24:09,690 comes to a roll off to the right side of 526 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,030 the road and again my mother doesn't 527 00:24:15,530 --> 00:24:13,679 know if she stopped it but the car did 528 00:24:16,529 --> 00:24:15,540 come to a stop off the right side of the 529 00:24:19,889 --> 00:24:16,539 road 530 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:19,899 and then it was completely quiet it was 531 00:24:27,089 --> 00:24:22,690 just a dead calm again that same friggin 532 00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:27,099 feeling and then he just knew and then 533 00:24:31,889 --> 00:24:29,049 there was this bang eruption of crickets 534 00:24:34,199 --> 00:24:31,899 when we came up it was so quiet when we 535 00:24:36,749 --> 00:24:34,209 came off that road that you could hear 536 00:24:40,459 --> 00:24:36,759 the stones tapping underneath the gas 537 00:24:45,139 --> 00:24:40,469 tank it was like ding ding ding ding 538 00:24:48,629 --> 00:24:45,149 like driving over you know eggshells 539 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:48,639 that's so dead quiet it was and then 540 00:24:52,829 --> 00:24:51,279 bang Katie it's crickets loud as you've 541 00:24:57,749 --> 00:24:52,839 ever heard in your life like 90 degrees 542 00:24:59,729 --> 00:24:57,759 that night it was a hot night and then 543 00:25:05,399 --> 00:24:59,739 I'm in I'm in this holding room that 544 00:25:09,239 --> 00:25:05,409 looked like an airplane hangar and if it 545 00:25:11,129 --> 00:25:09,249 was a like a to give you an example I 546 00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:11,139 guess a football field I'd be at the 547 00:25:18,239 --> 00:25:14,169 5-yard line but there were metal trays 548 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:18,249 off to my right that reminded me of the 549 00:25:23,699 --> 00:25:21,849 trays that you'd find in a school back 550 00:25:26,729 --> 00:25:23,709 then where they wanted to put projectors 551 00:25:29,249 --> 00:25:26,739 or something on it and where they wanted 552 00:25:30,389 --> 00:25:29,259 to use it you know for like a media 553 00:25:31,199 --> 00:25:30,399 table or something they're always 554 00:25:34,859 --> 00:25:31,209 reminding me of that 555 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:34,869 and yet out and about was nothing but 556 00:25:39,449 --> 00:25:37,809 open black space with a little bit of 557 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:39,459 light coming in so I could kind of get a 558 00:25:43,439 --> 00:25:40,809 feel for it I don't know where it was 559 00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:43,449 coming from but it was open and empty I 560 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:47,039 mean there was nothing in there nothing 561 00:25:54,269 --> 00:25:51,849 and then it's light opened or I saw this 562 00:26:00,779 --> 00:25:54,279 light it was a door but I saw the light 563 00:26:04,349 --> 00:26:00,789 first and I walked to it and I was 564 00:26:07,129 --> 00:26:04,359 sternly grabbed on my left arm and I was 565 00:26:09,989 --> 00:26:07,139 kind of forced out the door to the right 566 00:26:11,969 --> 00:26:09,999 and these were sharp 567 00:26:14,879 --> 00:26:11,979 left's and rights with very high thin 568 00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:14,889 walls higher than what's in here into 569 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:18,159 this room that had a table type of thing 570 00:26:23,069 --> 00:26:20,529 that I sat on doesn't lane on anything i 571 00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,079 sat on it and I was 9 so it couldn't 572 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:25,600 been very tall and 573 00:26:30,330 --> 00:26:28,330 the room that I was in bowed inward as 574 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:30,340 if it was like a big coffee can bowing 575 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:33,370 inward and on each side of this pocket 576 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:35,770 where it boat in there was a what I 577 00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:38,530 believe an opening on the left and there 578 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:40,720 was definitely an opening the opening on 579 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:46,840 the right and so this entity that I saw 580 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:50,490 or looked very genetically-engineered 581 00:26:55,890 --> 00:26:53,710 resembled that of an ant with some human 582 00:27:01,020 --> 00:26:55,900 features it had the head it looked like 583 00:27:02,820 --> 00:27:01,030 a almost like a football shape very thin 584 00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:02,830 neck the neck on it was probably like 585 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:05,980 this and it came down to like a teardrop 586 00:27:10,050 --> 00:27:06,610 body 587 00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:10,060 it was very whitish gray the legs look 588 00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:13,660 like that of bamboo sticks with rings on 589 00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:17,310 it that were more like a purple and 590 00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:20,680 which emptied out to what I believe was 591 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:21,820 more like the featured seeing an 592 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:27,610 elephant kind of just flat rounded human 593 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:30,970 hands a slit type of mouth thing where 594 00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:32,170 had a little bit of teeth in it almost 595 00:27:42,750 --> 00:27:37,150 like a fish round eyes black kind of 596 00:27:46,350 --> 00:27:42,760 sitting on top and and that's what was 597 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:46,360 tanning right over here and it turned 598 00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:48,520 its head for a moment almost like in 599 00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:51,460 that way of a uncanny valley like it's 600 00:27:57,180 --> 00:27:53,830 kind of not really human but it appears 601 00:28:00,750 --> 00:27:57,190 to be alive send a chill through my back 602 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:00,760 I ran out the side here got into this 603 00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:04,510 huge intersecting hallway which had two 604 00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:07,500 hallways off to the right one here and 605 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:10,600 one back over here which is where I 606 00:28:14,580 --> 00:28:13,330 heard voices coming from it I want to 607 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:14,590 think it was my mother I wanted to 608 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:16,090 believe it was family because at that 609 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:17,500 point I was alone in this room 610 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:20,290 and although alien mystery shows my 611 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:23,170 brother next to me he wasn't I was alone 612 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:29,530 and the intersecting hallway to give a 613 00:28:35,850 --> 00:28:31,330 good description estate would have been 614 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:35,860 just a big circle with a Y hallway going 615 00:28:39,270 --> 00:28:38,590 out a wide hallway coming down and a 616 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:39,280 huge 617 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:42,130 this way almost as if you were thinking 618 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:43,750 that you were going to get traffic 619 00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:46,240 coming this way you needed to expand the 620 00:28:50,910 --> 00:28:48,340 walls to able to control the flow of 621 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:50,920 traffic and then filter to the bottom 622 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:53,170 almost like an hourglass type of thing 623 00:29:02,280 --> 00:28:57,370 would you would need that flow so are 624 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:02,290 like a funnel and so later on I thought 625 00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:03,850 to myself well that's why there's a room 626 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:05,860 about inward because the hallway out 627 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:08,560 there Boat outward but while I'm in this 628 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:10,180 hallway I'm hearing voices I'm hearing 629 00:29:15,090 --> 00:29:12,010 sounds I don't know what it is I'm 630 00:29:18,450 --> 00:29:15,100 praying to God it's my mother and again 631 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:18,460 I'm taken back and but this time I'm 632 00:29:23,790 --> 00:29:20,650 laying on this thing and it's what it's 633 00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:23,800 about probably three feet off the ground 634 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:28,240 now so it raised up then this cage this 635 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:30,730 cage thing came over me that was in two 636 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:33,430 parts the bottom part was almost like a 637 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:38,170 square and it right grows into something 638 00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:40,870 that was much more cylinder and the 639 00:29:45,410 --> 00:29:42,580 bottom part actually started to separate 640 00:29:47,970 --> 00:29:45,420 came around my body then the outer part 641 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:47,980 separated and wrote and drove over it 642 00:29:55,230 --> 00:29:51,510 and they had holes in the side of it and 643 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:55,240 there were like his raison pacts I know 644 00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:57,010 this sounds tough to understand but 645 00:30:01,380 --> 00:29:59,170 there was raised impacts that were 646 00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:01,390 placed only on my left side and again 647 00:30:05,850 --> 00:30:03,070 everything's my left that's grabbed by 648 00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:05,860 my left I'm I'm escorted by my left and 649 00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:07,060 now these things are put on the left 650 00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:13,000 side of my body now my brother will say 651 00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:14,740 that when he saw the entity that looks 652 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:18,940 like an insect that it was about four 653 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:21,730 feet tall I thought it was closer to 654 00:30:28,530 --> 00:30:25,330 five but it's interesting that if there 655 00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:28,540 is no compassion why did appear to lower 656 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:32,740 itself I level or less so not to be 657 00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:37,360 overly intimidating or was it to look us 658 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:41,470 directly in the eye but by lowering it 659 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:44,130 to my brother he wasn't as scared of it 660 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:47,050 so it was kind of an interesting thing 661 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,370 I get a couple bumps to the head now and 662 00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:52,480 that's all I remember was like a thump 663 00:31:01,680 --> 00:30:55,900 or two and and now I'm back in his 664 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:01,690 holding area and and then fragmented 665 00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:04,810 again but we're back in the car and at 666 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:06,460 this point my grandmother had all 667 00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:08,260 returned the car around and started 668 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:09,700 driving back to the center of great car 669 00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:12,520 Sheffield to where silks was where she 670 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:13,960 had stopped in earlier for cigarettes 671 00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:19,150 after we'd made them the drop and so 672 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:22,420 what I came to she had gotten out 673 00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:23,890 slammed the door that's probably what 674 00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:25,780 woke me because she was only a few feet 675 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:27,880 in front of the car this time I get out 676 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:29,460 of the car and I start following her 677 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:31,810 Nana Nana you know where he go and that 678 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:32,410 kind of thing 679 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:34,330 then she didn't really respond she was 680 00:31:37,530 --> 00:31:35,920 kind of walking aimlessly kind of 681 00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:37,540 walking you know just kind of out of it 682 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:39,990 you know kind of like traumatized really 683 00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:45,580 and so she walks into the store goes by 684 00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:47,320 the clerk and gets tied up on all these 685 00:31:53,670 --> 00:31:51,640 bikes and and strollers and and baby 686 00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:53,680 carriages and all the stuff they sold in 687 00:32:00,150 --> 00:31:55,900 there it was like an old Rex halls 688 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:00,160 pharmacy or something and I'm calling 689 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:01,930 her hand that I'm trying to get her hand 690 00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:03,940 away from the bikes and pull it towards 691 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:06,790 a to me to get out of there and of 692 00:32:10,290 --> 00:32:08,260 course she couldn't because she was I 693 00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:10,300 wasn't clinking clearly either because I 694 00:32:13,290 --> 00:32:11,320 was trying to pull her through the bike 695 00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:13,300 so I remember that and and so she 696 00:32:17,460 --> 00:32:14,830 finally went around and came back out 697 00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:17,470 talked to the clerk for a moment went as 698 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:19,180 soon as she hit this off the stairs hit 699 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:21,970 the road again broke down started 700 00:32:26,430 --> 00:32:24,190 shaking started crying they got back in 701 00:32:28,650 --> 00:32:26,440 the car my mother had been come to at 702 00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:28,660 that point my brother I don't remember 703 00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:29,980 if he was awake or not but he says he 704 00:32:36,810 --> 00:32:32,020 remembers some of it and we just went 705 00:32:41,610 --> 00:32:36,820 home now that night was what really 706 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:41,620 caused us to move but I don't think my 707 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:43,930 mother realized after that how 708 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:46,410 traumatized really my brother and I was 709 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:49,450 we were altar boys you know we sang in 710 00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:53,740 church and and you know taught Sunday 711 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:55,360 School because it was another cute girl 712 00:33:00,419 --> 00:32:56,690 down there 713 00:33:03,789 --> 00:33:00,429 but I'll teach Sunday school today and 714 00:33:05,949 --> 00:33:03,799 play but we were active with the church 715 00:33:08,859 --> 00:33:05,959 and Families there and like I said was a 716 00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:08,869 small town and we were all kind of you 717 00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:11,289 know we're close back then you had 718 00:33:16,539 --> 00:33:13,459 different opinions but it was too small 719 00:33:23,549 --> 00:33:16,549 of a town for everyone to not get along 720 00:33:27,699 --> 00:33:23,559 or find a way to get along and so I 721 00:33:29,499 --> 00:33:27,709 don't know we tried to put put it behind 722 00:33:32,859 --> 00:33:29,509 us a little bit I guess I took my horse 723 00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:32,869 and wrote it up past the bail or even 724 00:33:37,209 --> 00:33:35,089 though I wasn't supposed to because I 725 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:37,219 had to know if that was the spot that I 726 00:33:40,269 --> 00:33:39,049 had seen earlier you know there's a time 727 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:40,279 when you just got a double check for 728 00:33:44,229 --> 00:33:41,779 yourself you know you got to go back and 729 00:33:45,789 --> 00:33:44,239 look for yourself and sure enough there 730 00:33:46,989 --> 00:33:45,799 was the rock that I had never seen 731 00:33:50,589 --> 00:33:46,999 before because I was never allowed to 732 00:33:52,089 --> 00:33:50,599 pass the baler the wishbone tree that 733 00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,099 was either broken or what have you and 734 00:33:56,169 --> 00:33:54,559 there was the spot where it was and I 735 00:33:58,989 --> 00:33:56,179 remember I had to lower my head 736 00:34:03,789 --> 00:33:58,999 underneath my horse's mane too to get 737 00:34:04,869 --> 00:34:03,799 through that brush and there it was and 738 00:34:06,669 --> 00:34:04,879 it was like being punched in the stomach 739 00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,679 it was just like taking a shot that it 740 00:34:10,779 --> 00:34:08,720 got because there was no way any of this 741 00:34:11,740 --> 00:34:10,789 I mean it was true there's a rock I 742 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:11,750 never saw before 743 00:34:17,859 --> 00:34:13,609 there's where it was there's the 744 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:17,869 wishbone tree you know so we had never 745 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:22,250 ever been there willingly before and on 746 00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:25,250 top of that we had seen that willow tree 747 00:34:34,659 --> 00:34:31,579 image in 66 now my mother had never told 748 00:34:37,149 --> 00:34:34,669 us that she had seen that before and she 749 00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:37,159 goes out and buys a willow tree and has 750 00:34:44,859 --> 00:34:40,879 it planted at her horses pond watering 751 00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:44,869 hole and then changes our room so we 752 00:34:50,829 --> 00:34:47,629 overlooked the willow tree at the front 753 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:50,839 of the house like unconsciously she did 754 00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:54,950 this so for whatever reason that willow 755 00:34:59,859 --> 00:34:57,139 tree was what was really symbolic to me 756 00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,869 that's what hurt that's what dug me you 757 00:35:04,059 --> 00:35:02,000 know that's what Bob though because it 758 00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:04,069 was so big and vivid I mean there's no 759 00:35:09,070 --> 00:35:07,940 way it was just so every time I saw a 760 00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:09,080 willow tree after that 761 00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:11,630 it just bothered me so I'm sitting in 762 00:35:17,290 --> 00:35:15,470 bed and my mother talked us in and went 763 00:35:20,770 --> 00:35:17,300 downstairs like she normally did dishes 764 00:35:25,150 --> 00:35:20,780 at night and in this room was right over 765 00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:25,160 the kitchen and and she would listen for 766 00:35:28,090 --> 00:35:26,750 us to settle down and come back up they 767 00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:28,100 give us a kiss goodnight again because 768 00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:29,540 she was single she made the rounds twice 769 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:33,860 and so she came in that night and I was 770 00:35:38,290 --> 00:35:36,020 sleeping with a fork now cuz it was the 771 00:35:40,690 --> 00:35:38,300 only thing I you know I thought I had 772 00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:40,700 protection and so she came already give 773 00:35:44,350 --> 00:35:42,350 me a kiss goodnight I'm lunged right up 774 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:44,360 and I I caught her right almost in the 775 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:48,410 eye with the fork and I think at that 776 00:35:58,030 --> 00:35:52,180 point and then the fight in school 777 00:36:01,060 --> 00:35:58,040 really kind of uh was the was the end 778 00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:01,070 all for Sheffield you know we you know 779 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:04,790 she would go back into work and all 780 00:36:09,010 --> 00:36:07,010 these calls had come into W SBS radio 781 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:09,020 people were talking about it now in the 782 00:36:12,610 --> 00:36:10,430 store because all these people saw it 783 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:12,620 and that's the that's the incident that 784 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:15,650 got the Hynek classification so at that 785 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:20,180 point it was validation but the damage 786 00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:22,130 was already done and a lot of her 787 00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:24,200 friends that were supposedly her friends 788 00:36:28,990 --> 00:36:26,000 there she thought she could count on 789 00:36:32,170 --> 00:36:29,000 we're really the ones laughing but now 790 00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:32,180 that so many of us people saw it oh we 791 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:34,040 were just joshing with Nancy we always 792 00:36:37,660 --> 00:36:35,570 believed yeah well no she needed you 793 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:37,670 then and you made fun of her you know 794 00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:45,370 and and so we sold and moved and and 795 00:36:55,630 --> 00:36:51,710 about God 20 years later my father runs 796 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:55,640 into attorney Robert Bloch Minh who at 797 00:37:00,370 --> 00:36:58,250 the time used to work or prior to that 798 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:00,380 was working with the Center for UFO 799 00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:04,490 studies now my father always said that 800 00:37:08,830 --> 00:37:06,110 he would talk about this and support my 801 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:08,840 mother when the time was right but by 802 00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:10,880 then he had already gone to law school 803 00:37:15,610 --> 00:37:14,240 been elected you know Rand the 804 00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:15,620 Democratic ticket he was backed by 805 00:37:22,750 --> 00:37:19,700 Senator Dodd governor O'Neill and had 806 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:22,760 the two terms in local office 807 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:26,690 and had a bench in the city green and a 808 00:37:34,780 --> 00:37:29,690 proclamation in his honor and so he was 809 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:34,790 a man who had a voice and so by the late 810 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:39,170 late 80s he he lost his election he lost 811 00:37:41,980 --> 00:37:40,970 his that collection for mayor in 87 I 812 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:41,990 believe it was they'll quote me on that 813 00:37:45,609 --> 00:37:43,940 but I think that's what it was and so he 814 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:45,619 was kind of done you know as far as 815 00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:47,510 politics goes but he still had some 816 00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:49,100 aspiration he didn't you know let's not 817 00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:52,070 ruin it now I could still go places but 818 00:37:58,599 --> 00:37:56,000 because he Bloch Minh was so taken by 819 00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:58,609 our case and Blackman's office who I 820 00:38:05,620 --> 00:38:01,520 legally retained you know I sent them a 821 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:05,630 check after meeting him four years after 822 00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:07,850 every Friday a few Friday's a month 823 00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:11,240 after work who was working with Linda 824 00:38:16,510 --> 00:38:13,070 Cortile and Budd Hopkins he had interest 825 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:16,520 in that the Hudson River Valley cases 826 00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:20,330 you know cash and Lander Minh and he was 827 00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:23,600 a someone who had something in the works 828 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:24,740 but he don't really tell us what it was 829 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:26,990 and so I'd sit in there with him for 830 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:29,150 hours and we finally just opened up and 831 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:31,250 talked and talked and talked and he 832 00:38:34,180 --> 00:38:32,690 looked into our case and found out that 833 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:34,190 there were about six or seven people 834 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:36,350 from the Country Club 835 00:38:42,370 --> 00:38:39,710 juggen that had called in reports people 836 00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:42,380 had called in WSB radio police officers 837 00:38:48,670 --> 00:38:47,300 were notified last name was AG Lata was 838 00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:48,680 the officer that I used to eat in her 839 00:38:54,609 --> 00:38:52,430 restaurant with his son any galata so 840 00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,619 any galata and his father who the police 841 00:38:59,290 --> 00:38:56,720 officer used to sit in her often in the 842 00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:59,300 restaurant you know as they're like 843 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:01,040 local office because they could work in 844 00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,880 the back keep an eye on the store E and 845 00:39:08,740 --> 00:39:06,400 it was a bigger spot than their little 846 00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,750 fly-by-night office behind her store and 847 00:39:11,770 --> 00:39:10,400 keep an eye in a restaurant for so my 848 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,780 mom was single at the time so it was 849 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:14,000 just kind of a thing they did and people 850 00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:15,830 would come in and talk and you can some 851 00:39:21,450 --> 00:39:17,540 things we get heated up but at the same 852 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:21,460 time things were getting better but but 853 00:39:29,230 --> 00:39:26,690 by the 80s though you know it was long 854 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:29,240 gone it was sold a whole bit but blech 855 00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:32,510 Minh found that but those people he was 856 00:39:36,810 --> 00:39:34,270 able to find them 857 00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:36,820 and get the particular so he was really 858 00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:38,740 interested in our case because of the 859 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:40,990 fact that my father had a you know a 860 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:43,570 pillar standing in a political 861 00:39:48,089 --> 00:39:46,540 background so I walk into his office and 862 00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:48,099 he says I talked to your father it's up 863 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:48,609 to you 864 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:50,170 would you mind well if we mentioned this 865 00:39:53,490 --> 00:39:51,760 I got something big coming up that's 866 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:53,500 exactly what he said to me and I said 867 00:39:56,730 --> 00:39:54,640 I'm okay with as long as you don't 868 00:39:59,070 --> 00:39:56,740 tarnish my father's reputation so in 869 00:40:02,460 --> 00:39:59,080 1992 on October 2nd he mentioned our 870 00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:02,470 case at the United Nations in support of 871 00:40:09,870 --> 00:40:05,920 33 for 26 in support of Lander Minh 872 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:09,880 really primarily interested in the 873 00:40:15,690 --> 00:40:13,089 environment the electromagnetic energy 874 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:15,700 that we found or believed it was at the 875 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:20,170 time and the crickets the cadence and he 876 00:40:24,210 --> 00:40:22,390 really took an interest in that and the 877 00:40:27,060 --> 00:40:24,220 fact that there were so many people that 878 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:27,070 were still talking about it back in 879 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:29,050 great barrington and Sheffield because 880 00:40:35,370 --> 00:40:33,880 the village green never changed names so 881 00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:35,380 he could go back there and it'd still be 882 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:36,790 people talking about on the right day 883 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:39,580 you know and so he did he mentioned our 884 00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:43,839 case October 2nd 1992 after he came back 885 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:45,670 my father ended up getting a bunch of 886 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:48,670 papers that were stamped September I'm 887 00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:52,330 sorry October 7th and October 5th almost 888 00:40:58,470 --> 00:40:56,640 a week after that those discussions 889 00:41:01,170 --> 00:40:58,480 somewhere in the library somewhere 890 00:41:05,070 --> 00:41:01,180 private rooms and there was a lot there 891 00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:05,080 stuff for Henry Truman grease ministry 892 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:07,750 defense you know the whole bit f4 893 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:11,290 fighter jets unable to fire on UFOs were 894 00:41:14,099 --> 00:41:12,760 as much of a threat to them as they its 895 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:14,109 our us you know that was from the 896 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:15,730 Pentagon I believe there was a lot of 897 00:41:22,650 --> 00:41:20,530 stuff in black and white and so we kind 898 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:22,660 of thought that was the end of it and my 899 00:41:30,210 --> 00:41:26,230 father had some papers to support what 900 00:41:32,310 --> 00:41:30,220 he thought and it was over but then my 901 00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:32,320 father goes to write about this 14 years 902 00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:38,140 later and basically drops dead so he 903 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:41,680 goes into his office after discussing 904 00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:43,780 and calling blechtman and other people 905 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:47,020 and and those that he knew that had a 906 00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:48,030 lot more insight 907 00:41:56,660 --> 00:41:53,430 than he did and they were collaborating 908 00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:56,670 and and his head hit the desk I 909 00:42:02,360 --> 00:41:59,880 understand and they rushed him to Yale 910 00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:02,370 New Haven and because he was a political 911 00:42:07,610 --> 00:42:05,700 person he was given the best doctor as a 912 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:07,620 missing anybody excellent bang you know 913 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:11,330 any Bionic shots of the legs and 914 00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:14,970 suddenly his temperature spikes what it 915 00:42:18,410 --> 00:42:17,190 should have gone down and so they 916 00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:18,420 thought okay maybe we gave him the wrong 917 00:42:23,810 --> 00:42:21,600 antibiotic so let's give him this and 918 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:23,820 it's shot up even higher so my father 919 00:42:27,590 --> 00:42:25,290 was burning up at this point 920 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:27,600 and he was having problems following say 921 00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:29,130 it tubes down his throat the whole bit 922 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:31,740 and then Jim just went into cardiac 923 00:42:40,730 --> 00:42:36,000 shock and died the reason he really died 924 00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:40,740 was because he was somehow he had a 925 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:44,400 fungus in his blood so when he gives 926 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,050 someone a lot of antibiotics it kills 927 00:42:50,330 --> 00:42:47,520 the good bacteria which is the only 928 00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:50,340 bacteria left that can fight a fungus so 929 00:42:56,090 --> 00:42:51,830 the fungus was so much stronger than a 930 00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:56,100 than what he needed that by the the 931 00:43:01,880 --> 00:42:58,500 bacteria to fight it it killed the good 932 00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:01,890 with the bad and he died on the exact 933 00:43:07,070 --> 00:43:05,520 same day so if you were to kill somebody 934 00:43:09,350 --> 00:43:07,080 or have somebody killed you wanted to 935 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:09,360 dine that day you give him you mask it 936 00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:10,410 is something that looks like an 937 00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,900 infection a high infection you burning 938 00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:14,880 up you go to the doctor they give you 939 00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:19,740 antibiotics and it kills you now the 940 00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:22,920 mayor of Bridgeport had gotten reports 941 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:25,230 that someone was in his office they went 942 00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,370 they looked and sure enough there were 943 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:28,560 white clean white ceiling tiles now in 944 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:31,410 his office which made the mayor of 945 00:43:36,310 --> 00:43:34,410 Bridgeport concerned so he called in the 946 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:36,320 CDC and that was in the New York Times 947 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:40,050 the CDC came in and ripped out the 948 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:41,580 air-conditioning unit and sure enough 949 00:43:46,010 --> 00:43:43,410 they found some glass in there so they 950 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:46,020 assumed or pretty much figured at that 951 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:47,850 point that something had been broken in 952 00:43:52,310 --> 00:43:49,170 there that was that shouldn't depend in 953 00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:52,320 there and so now they get tested it gets 954 00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:54,510 tested there's a virus in there and that 955 00:44:01,010 --> 00:43:56,460 buildings has been shut down to this day 956 00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:01,020 that building has never reopened it's 957 00:44:06,590 --> 00:44:04,110 closed its condemned not directly by the 958 00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:06,600 CDC but the subcontracting company that 959 00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:09,300 worked for the CDC to evaluate if it was 960 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:10,940 safe to be in that building anymore 961 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:13,650 blechh minh past not much longer after 962 00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:17,130 my father and then a doctor who 963 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:19,380 evaluated pretty much our whole family 964 00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:23,760 and was overseen the hypnosis Center 965 00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:25,320 that was testing my son because he was 966 00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:27,440 showing some very high signs of 967 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:29,910 abilities heightened abilities he was 968 00:44:35,710 --> 00:44:31,770 testing higher than coincidental chance 969 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:35,720 and he gave a report out on the 970 00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:38,250 September 15th and he was going to speak 971 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:40,380 at a MUFON conference and in 972 00:44:45,650 --> 00:44:43,290 Murphysboro never made it because he was 973 00:44:50,570 --> 00:44:45,660 triangled November 12th in the front 974 00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:50,580 door of his own home so that is a good 975 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:51,240 part of it 976 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:54,090 we had an FBI agent in my house we've 977 00:44:58,340 --> 00:44:56,610 had key point government solutions set 978 00:45:01,370 --> 00:44:58,350 me down on my front steps I got his card 979 00:45:03,890 --> 00:45:01,380 in my wallet I I had to I swear not to 980 00:45:10,010 --> 00:45:03,900 talk about it by the Privacy Act in 1974 981 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:10,020 so I will do that off record but my 982 00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:12,810 white lawyer who was bringing our doc 983 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:16,680 doctors reports polygraph tests papers 984 00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:19,170 from the United Nations that were 985 00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:20,910 bringing it she was bringing it to the 986 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:23,730 City Hall to have a Memorandum of law 987 00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:25,530 written on him to say that they were 988 00:45:29,390 --> 00:45:27,119 authentic documents and all of them are 989 00:45:35,810 --> 00:45:29,400 was run off the road onto oncoming 990 00:45:36,370 --> 00:45:35,820 traffic she runs back down to the DA's 991 00:45:38,810 --> 00:45:36,380 office 992 00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,820 her husband was actually in the attorney 993 00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:41,760 she was a paralegal and made some calls 994 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:43,380 go see someone so I was waiting for you 995 00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:45,930 and we gave him a plate number and hold 996 00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,609 things so he gets brought into court 997 00:45:52,780 --> 00:45:49,200 about a week or two later well he's a 998 00:45:57,530 --> 00:45:52,790 hired private investigator that was paid 999 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:57,540 to harass her harassed me and he 1000 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:01,440 wouldn't give up his resources but he 1001 00:46:10,970 --> 00:46:05,760 ran her and oncoming traffic so after 1002 00:46:13,909 --> 00:46:10,980 they she left the the DA's office 1003 00:46:16,229 --> 00:46:13,919 Debbie Kessler 1004 00:46:17,669 --> 00:46:16,239 was telling me because I actually wrote 1005 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:17,679 up with her you know what they were 1006 00:46:23,129 --> 00:46:20,649 asking her and why they think that this 1007 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:23,139 would be why would she be run off the 1008 00:46:29,669 --> 00:46:25,209 road and so she mentioned that she had 1009 00:46:36,109 --> 00:46:29,679 some sensitive documents and that led 1010 00:46:40,529 --> 00:46:36,119 this was that she had some very powerful 1011 00:46:45,989 --> 00:46:40,539 damaging material that she wanted to get 1012 00:46:47,939 --> 00:46:45,999 a Memorandum of law and for my late 1013 00:46:50,429 --> 00:46:47,949 father and her husband who were again 1014 00:46:52,709 --> 00:46:50,439 lawyers and blood Smith was a lawyer and 1015 00:46:54,659 --> 00:46:52,719 so there were comments made well why 1016 00:46:58,279 --> 00:46:54,669 don't you just call NASA you know that 1017 00:47:06,889 --> 00:47:01,319 silliness now didn't really need to be 1018 00:47:10,889 --> 00:47:06,899 there but at the same time I think that 1019 00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:10,899 her husband calling it off I think was 1020 00:47:15,449 --> 00:47:12,339 for a number of reasons I think that 1021 00:47:17,459 --> 00:47:15,459 maybe he thought that his firm not only 1022 00:47:19,709 --> 00:47:17,469 shouldn't get involved in it anymore but 1023 00:47:21,779 --> 00:47:19,719 you know for more than one reason you 1024 00:47:24,389 --> 00:47:21,789 know maybe he thought it was a affecting 1025 00:47:25,769 --> 00:47:24,399 the reputation of his firm wife's 1026 00:47:28,799 --> 00:47:25,779 getting run off the road at oncoming 1027 00:47:30,419 --> 00:47:28,809 traffic so he pulled out some all these 1028 00:47:34,799 --> 00:47:30,429 documents are still waiting for my mind 1029 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:34,809 on the law now what else came out of 1030 00:47:38,639 --> 00:47:36,729 that though was that she had shared with 1031 00:47:43,139 --> 00:47:38,649 them that there were magnetic readings 1032 00:47:45,389 --> 00:47:43,149 that were on tape filmed on camera a 1033 00:47:46,529 --> 00:47:45,399 compass spinning with a up to two feet 1034 00:47:49,409 --> 00:47:46,539 away from the car 1035 00:47:53,459 --> 00:47:49,419 there were radiation and radioactive hot 1036 00:47:55,769 --> 00:47:53,469 spots that was on an email and testimony 1037 00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:55,779 from a police officer a thirty-year 1038 00:48:04,649 --> 00:48:00,880 detective who worked our case and you've 1039 00:48:06,269 --> 00:48:04,659 got witnesses and the fact that I had to 1040 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:06,279 take a polygraph test and actually 1041 00:48:11,059 --> 00:48:09,130 passed it with a 99.1% no deception 1042 00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:11,069 indicated 1043 00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:14,319 there the radio station had letters and 1044 00:48:21,629 --> 00:48:19,359 and old you know archives from the 1045 00:48:24,690 --> 00:48:21,639 people calling it there's an old archive 1046 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:24,700 with me on it you know 1047 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:27,760 so it and you got the the classification 1048 00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:28,990 that would that it was given in 1049 00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:33,070 September of 1969 which clearly shows a 1050 00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:36,430 J Hynek classification and then it went 1051 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,420 to the United Nations then my father was 1052 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:43,119 killed on the same day that was all in 1053 00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:45,910 there as to why they wanted a memorandum 1054 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:48,790 of law on his documents and then even 1055 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:51,130 with that because of a topic you could 1056 00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:53,050 prosecute somebody in court with all 1057 00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:55,510 that information but it's hard to get 1058 00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:57,220 someone to take it seriously because of 1059 00:49:04,589 --> 00:49:00,839 that topic so again Kessler pulled off 1060 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:04,599 now that's also the reason though that 1061 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:07,690 the Historical Society later on would 1062 00:49:11,069 --> 00:49:09,220 induct it to be the first case ever 1063 00:49:13,319 --> 00:49:11,079 inducted because they took it seriously 1064 00:49:15,150 --> 00:49:13,329 because they knew everybody that was